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Claims from Trump and Biden’s first debate

By: AP | Washington |

September 30, 2020 9:28:36 am

President Donald Trump holds up his face masks throughout the first presidential debate Tuesday, Sept. 29, 2020, at Case Western College and Cleveland Clinic, in Cleveland, Ohio. (AP Photograph)

President Donald Trump and Democratic rival Joe Biden sparred Tuesday of their first of three debates, hoping to sway undecided voters planning to forged ballots by mail and in particular person within the last weeks main as much as the Nov. three election.

A have a look at how their statements from Cleveland stack up with the info:


BIDEN: “The very fact of the matter is violent crime went down 17%, 15%, in our administration.”

THE FACTS: That’s overstating it.

General, the variety of violent crimes fell roughly 10% from 2008, the yr earlier than Biden took workplace as vice chairman, to 2016, his final full yr within the workplace, in accordance with knowledge from the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program.

Claims from Trump and Biden's first debate Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden speaks throughout the first presidential debate towards President Donald Trump, Tuesday, Sept. 29, 2020, at Case Western College and Cleveland Clinic, in Cleveland, Ohio. (AP Photograph/Pool)

However the variety of violent crimes was spiking once more throughout Obama and Biden’s last two years in workplace, rising by 8% from 2014 to 2016.

Extra individuals had been slain throughout the U.S. in 2016, for instance, than at another level below the Obama administration.


TRUMP: “When you have a look at what’s occurring in Chicago, the place 53 individuals had been shot and eight died. When you have a look at New York the place it’s going up like no one’s ever seen something … the numbers are going up 100 150, 200%, crime, it’s loopy what’s occurring.”

THE FACTS: Not fairly. The statistics in Chicago are true, however these numbers are solely a small snapshot of crime within the metropolis and the US, and his technique is highlighting how knowledge will be simply molded to swimsuit the second. As for New York, Trump might have been speaking about shootings. They’re up in New York by about 93% up to now this yr, however total crime is down about 1.5%. Murders are up 38%, however there have been 327 killings in contrast with 236, nonetheless low in contrast with years previous. For instance, in contrast with a decade in the past, crime is down 10 %.

An FBI report launched Monday for 2019 yr of crime knowledge discovered that violent crime has decreased over the previous three years.



TRUMP: Dr. Anthony Fauci “stated very strongly, ‘masks should not good.’ Then he modified his thoughts, he stated, ‘masks, good.’”

THE FACTS: He’s skirting essential context. Trump is telling the story in a manner that leaves out key classes realized because the coronavirus pandemic unfolded, elevating doubts concerning the credibility of public well being recommendation.

Early on within the outbreak, various public well being officers urged on a regular basis individuals to not use masks, fearing a run on already quick provides of private protecting tools wanted by medical doctors and nurses in hospitals.

However that modified because the extremely contagious nature of the coronavirus grew to become clear, in addition to the truth that it may be unfold by tiny droplets breathed into the air by individuals who might not show any signs.

Fauci of the Nationwide Institutes of Well being, together with Dr. Robert Redfield of the Facilities for Illness Management and Prevention, Dr. Steven Hahn of the Meals and Drug Administration and Dr. Deborah Birx of the White Home coronavirus process power, all agree on the significance of carrying masks and working towards social distancing. Redfield has repeatedly stated it might be as efficient as a vaccine if individuals took that recommendation to coronary heart.


TRUMP, on coronavirus and his marketing campaign rallies: “To this point we’ve got had no downside in any way. It’s exterior, that’s a giant distinction in accordance with the consultants. We now have great crowds.”

THE FACTS: That’s not right.

Trump held an indoor rally in Tulsa in late June, drawing each 1000’s of members and huge protests.

The Tulsa Metropolis-County Well being Division director stated the rally “doubtless contributed” to a dramatic surge in new coronavirus instances there. By the primary week of July, Tulsa County was confirming greater than 200 new day by day instances, setting report highs. That’s greater than twice the quantity the week earlier than the rally.


TRUMP, addressing Biden: “You didn’t do very effectively on the swine flu. H1N1. You had been a catastrophe.”

THE FACTS: Trump regularly distorts what occurred within the pandemic of 2009, which killed far fewer individuals in the US than the coronavirus is killing now. For starters, Biden as vice chairman wasn’t working the federal response. And that response was quicker out of the gate than when COVID-19 got here to the U.S.

Then, the Facilities for Illness Management and Prevention’s flu surveillance community sounded the alarm after two youngsters in California grew to become the primary individuals recognized with the brand new flu pressure on this nation.

About two weeks later, the Obama administration declared a public well being emergency towards H1N1, also referred to as the swine flu, and the CDC started releasing anti-flu medicine from the nationwide stockpile to assist hospitals prepare. In distinction, Trump declared a state of emergency in early March, seven weeks after the primary U.S. case of COVID-19 was introduced, and the nation’s well being system struggled for months with shortages of vital provides and testing.

Greater than 200,000 individuals have died from COVID-19 within the U.S. The CDC places the U.S. loss of life toll from the 2009-2010 H1N1 pandemic at about 12,500.


TRUMP, addressing Biden on U.S. deaths from COVID-19: “When you had been right here, it wouldn’t be 200,000 individuals, it will be 2 million individuals. You didn’t need me to ban China, which was closely contaminated…. If we might have listened to you, the nation would have been left extensive open.”

THE FACTS: This accusation is off the mark. Biden by no means got here out towards Trump’s choice to limit journey from China. Biden was gradual in staking a place on the matter however when he did, he supported the restrictions. Biden by no means recommended leaving the nation “extensive open” within the face of the pandemic.

Trump repeatedly, and falsely, claims to have banned journey from China. He restricted it.

The U.S. restrictions that took impact Feb. 2 continued to permit journey to the U.S. from China’s Hong Kong and Macao territories over the previous 5 months. The Related Press reported that greater than 8,000 Chinese language and international nationals primarily based in these territories entered the U.S. within the first three months after the journey restrictions had been imposed.

Moreover, greater than 27,000 People returned from mainland China within the first month after the restrictions took impact. U.S. officers misplaced observe of greater than 1,600 of them who had been purported to be monitored for virus publicity.

Dozens of nations took comparable steps to manage journey from scorching spots earlier than or across the similar time the U.S. did.



BIDEN: Trump would be the “first (president) in American historical past” to lose jobs throughout his presidency.

THE FACTS: No, if Trump loses re-election, he wouldn’t be the primary president in U.S. historical past to have misplaced jobs. That occurred below Herbert Hoover, the president who misplaced the 1932 election to Franklin Roosevelt because the Nice Despair precipitated large job losses.

Official jobs data solely return to 1939 and, in that interval, no president has ended his time period with fewer jobs than when he started. Trump seems to be on observe to have misplaced jobs throughout his first time period, which might make him the primary to take action since Hoover.



TRUMP: “I’m the one who introduced again soccer. By the way in which, I introduced again Massive Ten soccer. It was me and I’m very completely satisfied to do it.”

THE FACTS: Higher examine the tape. Whereas Trump had referred to as for the Massive Ten convention to carry its 2020 soccer season, he wasn’t the one one. Followers, college students, athletes and school cities had additionally urged the convention to renew play.

When the Massive Ten introduced earlier this month that it reverse an earlier choice to cancel the season due to COVID-19, Trump tweeted his thanks: “It’s my nice honor to have helped!!!”

The convention contains a number of massive universities in states that would show pivotal within the election, together with Pennsylvania, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Wisconsin.



BIDEN, on Supreme Courtroom nominee Amy Coney Barrett: “She thinks that the Reasonably priced Care Act just isn’t constitutional.”

THE FACTS: That’s not proper.

Biden is speaking about Trump’s choose to exchange the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Barrett has been vital of the Obama-era legislation and the court docket selections which have upheld it, however she has by no means stated it’s not constitutional. The Supreme Courtroom will hear arguments within the case on Nov. 10, and the Trump administration is asking the excessive court docket to rule the legislation unconstitutional.



TRUMP: “Drug costs might be coming down 80 or 90%.”

THE FACTS: That’s a promise, not a actuality.

And as a promise, it’s an apparent stretch.

Trump has been unable to get laws to decrease drug costs by means of Congress. Main regulatory actions from his administration are nonetheless within the works, and are more likely to be challenged in court docket.

There’s no plan on the horizon that may decrease drug costs as dramatically as Trump claims.



TRUMP: “You stated you went to Delaware State, however you forgot the identify of your school. You didn’t go to Delaware State. … There’s nothing sensible about you, Joe.”

THE FACTS: Trump is quoting Biden out of context. The previous vice chairman, a graduate of the College of Delaware, didn’t say he attended Delaware State College however was making a broader level about his long-standing ties to the Black neighborhood.

Trump is referring to remarks Biden typically says on the marketing campaign, usually when chatting with Black audiences, that he “goes manner again with HBCUs,” or traditionally Black universities and faculties. Biden has spoken many occasions through the years at Delaware State, a public HBCU in his house state, and the varsity says that’s the place he first introduced his bid for the Senate – his political begin.

“I obtained began out of an HBCU, Delaware State — now, I don’t need to hear something unfavourable about Delaware State,” Biden advised a city corridor in Florence, South Carolina, in October 2019. “They’re my of us.”

Biden typically touts his deep political ties to the Black neighborhood, sometimes saying he “grew up politically” or “obtained began politically” within the Black church. In entrance of some audiences, he’s omitted the phrase “politically,” however nonetheless with a transparent context about his bigger level. The statements are all a part of customary part of his stump noting that Delaware has “the eighth largest Black inhabitants by share.”

A spokesman for the Delaware State College, Carlos Holmes, has stated it took Biden’s feedback to seek advice from his political begin, saying that Biden introduced his bid for the U.S. Senate on the DSU campus in 1972.

Biden’s broader level is push again on the concept that he’s a Johnny-Come-Currently with the Black neighborhood or that his political connections there are owed solely to being Barack Obama’s vice chairman.

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